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« Result #1 Yesterday at 4:50am »

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2011 New Home Sales Fall To Record Low,
Median New Home Price At Lowest Since October 2010

By Tyler Durden
Created 01/26/2012 - 10:29

http://www.zerohedge.com/print/443168

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/f....%20December.jpg

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« Result #2 Yesterday at 4:46am »

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Baltic Dry Plunges 42% More Than
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http://www.zerohedge.com/print/443163

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« Result #3 on Jan 25, 2012, 11:11am »


Jan 25, 2012, 4:48am, Denarius wrote:
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There is a raft of postings on this subject at http://www.jsmineset.com/
going back a few days. I am sure ZeroHedge and MaxKeiser and GlobalResearch
and others must have addressed the subject but no time available here to follow-up.
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COFER data sure helps me keep a view from above the mêlée.


http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/cofer_dollars.png

http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/cofer_euros.png

http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/cofer_eem.png

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« Result #4 on Jan 25, 2012, 11:08am »


Jan 25, 2012, 4:38am, Denarius wrote:
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Thanks, bart, for opening up a wider world to me than the
BDI reveals by itself. Here is a current Harper Petersen graph
that seems to support the view from the BDI perspective :

http://www.harperpetersen.com/harpex/har....floatRight=None

Unfortunately, StuckCharts begins its BDI plotting at Jan 2003

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$BDI,uu[h,a]dahannay[dk][pb200!]

but the point I am making is that both indices are close
to their all-time lows whether in 2002 or 2008.

Granted that shipping rates are as much a function of the
glut in available ships as they are a function of demand for
them, shipping rates do reflect an important facet of the
world economic condition.

A better view may be had from a graph of all transportation
fuel sales by volume, not price. Find me that and I will
abandon the BDI and HARPEX in a New York minute.
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Here's all four indexes I track, short and longer term... and you got my basic points too.

http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ocean_freight_bdi_etc_short.png

http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ocean_freight_bdi_etc.png


Truth on fuel prices, wish I knew a source.

Closest I know of is Ceridian or Cass, but both are US only.

http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/ceridian_commerce_index.png


http://www.nowandfutures.com/images/cass_freight_index.png
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« Result #5 on Jan 25, 2012, 4:48am »

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There is a raft of postings on this subject at http://www.jsmineset.com/
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« Result #6 on Jan 25, 2012, 4:38am »

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Thanks, bart, for opening up a wider world to me than the
BDI reveals by itself. Here is a current Harper Petersen graph
that seems to support the view from the BDI perspective :

http://www.harperpetersen.com/harpex/har....floatRight=None

Unfortunately, StuckCharts begins its BDI plotting at Jan 2003

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$BDI,uu[h,a]dahannay[dk][pb200!]

but the point I am making is that both indices are close
to their all-time lows whether in 2002 or 2008.

Granted that shipping rates are as much a function of the
glut in available ships as they are a function of demand for
them, shipping rates do reflect an important facet of the
world economic condition.

A better view may be had from a graph of all transportation
fuel sales by volume, not price. Find me that and I will
abandon the BDI and HARPEX in a New York minute.
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« Result #7 on Jan 24, 2012, 1:17am »

I realize that several important things have happened lately with respect to international commerce bypassing the world's reserve currency, but this item stands out for me because it is precisely what I was told by a friendly gentleman from the Indian government over a cup of tea on a boat in China in 2010. It was one of the most fascinating conversations of my life, and I kick myself for not exchanging names.

India to pay gold instead of dollars for Iranian oil. Oil and gold markets stunned (23-Jan-2012)
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« Result #8 on Jan 23, 2012, 6:26pm »


Jan 23, 2012, 2:12am, Denarius wrote:
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Looks like no one is re-building inventory this year.
Skepticism about economic recovery is spreading.

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$BDI,uu[d,a]dallnnay[dh][pb200!f]

Formula :
no jobs >>> no income >>> no spending >>> no inventory
needed >>> no shipping needed >>> no pricing power for ships.
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Yo d0000000000000000d... long time... ;-)


Keep in mind that the BDI only measures bulk dry cargo... and it has been *wildly* volatile too. 11,771 in mid 2008, 672 in late 2008 and ~4200 in late 2009 - about 840 today.

The Shanghai container index for example has been very stable for months, and the Harpex (primarily North Atlantic) has likely stopped its drop (high almost 800 in late 2010, about 400 now) as of the past 6-8 weeks.

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« Result #9 on Jan 23, 2012, 2:12am »

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Looks like no one is re-building inventory this year.
Skepticism about economic recovery is spreading.

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$BDI,uu[d,a]dallnnay[dh][pb200!f]

Formula :
no jobs >>> no income >>> no spending >>> no inventory
needed >>> no shipping needed >>> no pricing power for ships.
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« Result #10 on Jan 20, 2012, 1:49am »

Apologies. I've been on the road. Will post early next week, after the Vancouver Gold Show.

Jim Willie's latest for subscribers came out last night. It's humungous, and I haven't read it yet, but one paragraph stands out near the top:
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"Europeans do not see what is coming. Watch for February 21st and then again for March 20th as turning point dates. The United States of America could very well cease to exist in the way you have known it after that date. February 21st is to be a date where this planet will get a fresh new program downloaded. This will mark the beginning of a monumental cleansing process that will not be over until it done. This will embrace and engulf all and everything and everyone."

I wonder if he's talking about Iran ripple-effect. Europe halting its Iranian oil imports speaks to me of new American funding for Europe via the IMF ("You scratch my back, I scratch yours.") Maybe things start going 'boom' in March. It wouldn't be the first time. "Nuclear capability" seems to be the new "Yellowcake." Check another entry on the old PNAC shopping list.

Anecdotally, real estate in my region (Western Canada) is finally definitely peaked, even collapsing in some hotspots. I was in Whistler again (ski resort north of Vancouver: think thousands of cramped 1990s time-shares) and there are no buyers. Realtors have agreed not to put up signs for their listings, because there would be no place to walk on the sidewalks if they did. Speculators are panicking. Local real estate boards seem completley out of touch, continuing to use words like "stable" and "moderating." Good luck with that.

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« Result #11 on Jan 13, 2012, 10:39pm »

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Jan 13, 2012, 12:35am, Lore wrote:
It's hard to read tea leaves when they're not all in the same cup.

Nigh on impossible, imo, because today there are many cups, most
of them contain leaves but only some are orange pekoe cut black tea
AND all the cups are a blur since they are in Brownian motion.

Still looking forward to your "2012 Themes".
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« Result #12 on Jan 13, 2012, 12:35am »

Good chart. Point taken.

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The conditions may be similar but the market reactions/manipulations may be far different.

Your perspective is sobering as ever.

Wonder how much of this has to do with liquidity concerns, comparative currency 'strength,' Maund-esque too-neat stand-alone 'deflation,' or outright withdrawal like that espoused by Ann Barnhardt. The sharp downshift in Open Interest seems to be a puzzle for many long timers. I read somewhere that very big hands are simply closing positions and taking their business elsewhere. It's hard to read tea leaves when they're not all in the same cup.
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« Result #13 on Jan 11, 2012, 1:04pm »

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Gold Storms Above 200 DMA (ZH, 10-Jan)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/gold-storms-above-200-dma

One of the worst graphical charts I have ever seen.

Try this one instead . . .

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$GOLD,uu[d,a]dahlnnay[dh][pb250!b150!f]

Note the use of both 150 and 250 dma.

Also observe how the debacle of 2008 may be repeating but
for different, yet related, reasons. That may or may not show
up the same on price graphs. The conditions may be similar
but the market reactions/manipulations may be far different.

What tangled webs the PTB weave in order to deceive.

As far as BTFDs goes, not to worry. The point was made some
years ago that if you did nothing but BTFPs you would still look
like a genius in another year or two.

http://www. + stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$GOLD,uu[d,a]dahlnnay[dk][pb250!b150!f]

Looking forward to your "2012 Themes".
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« Result #14 on Jan 10, 2012, 10:49pm »

Gold Storms Above 200 DMA (ZH, 10-Jan)

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Remember when various economics professors and self-anointed Ph.D'ed market timers said to sell everything because the gold 200 DMA had been breached to the downside, never to be crossed back again, to which our simple retort was, "Many are doing their damnedest Ph.D.-best to somehow fuse economic theory and technical charting, and state that a breach of the 200 DMA in gold is indicative of imminent price collapse. And then there are facts. Such as this nugget from Stone McCarthy which looks at previous episodes of the 200 DMA breach and concludes based on severity of trendline penetration compared to average, that "this is just one reason we see strong potential for a rebound as participants reduce short exposure." So much for technicals." Sure enough: less than a month later, and $100 higher, gold is right back above the 200 DMA. Oh, and we expect to hear nothing from said academics for a long time.

Having pulled the trigger for some Ag on 30-Dec, I am rather pleased to think that I may for once have actually picked a bottom instead of a top. :o

Hope everybody is doing okay. It's a while since we last compared notes. I for one am greatly encouraged investment-wise by my reading. I'm putting together a list of 'themes' for 2012 and will post for opinions as soon as the notes are presentable.
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« Result #15 on Jan 10, 2012, 5:11pm »

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Finally found some graphs for a time span of TWO WEEKS :

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=GC&p=h1

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?t=SI&p=h1

Change the p=h1 in the URLs to p=d1 and see what you get.

You might also try substituting other Futures Contract Symbols
for the Gold Contract GC and Silver Contract SI and report here.

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« Result #16 on Jan 3, 2012, 3:48pm »


Dec 29, 2011, 11:39pm, Mike wrote:
...the one of a wad of lights tacked to the house...!

Say no more. You're right, Denarius: some pics need no caption. ;D

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"May you always have food & shelter,
Aye, and a soft pillow for yer head;
And three days in heaven,
Afore the Devil knows yer dead."


I like those Irish prayers:

"As you slide down the bannister of life,
May the splinters never point the wrong way."


And:

"May you live to be a hundred years,
With one extra year to repent!"


For those who haven't seen it, HERE is the JibJab 2011 Year In Review.

I'm looking for some good 2012 forecasts. Talk about a mixed bag!

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« Result #17 on Dec 30, 2011, 5:03pm »

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Yeah, the wad of light strings up by the roof.
I've seen several versions over the years with
captions :

"Did you finally get those lights put up?"
"Yes, dear."

"There! Your precious lights are "up"
so now you can stop nagging me."

and the best caption of all was . . . no caption.



With all this holiday spirit verging on sickening sweetness,
I wish to provide some balance by posting an actual e-mail
response of mine to another well-wisher :

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Before I forget . . .


!!! HAPPY BOXING DAY !!!


Your holiday story of planning to install a garbage disposal
got me into the spirit of the season . . . . I went shopping.

The "stockings to hang by the chimney with care" were
no problem BUT, when I asked about filling them, I got
blank stares. After some phone calls to higher and higher
levels of management, they were finally able to direct me
to their stores in West Virginia and Pennsylvania for some
top quality anthracite and bituminous varieties. Phew !
That was close. I almost gave up in disgust with a hearty
Bah ! Humbug !

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Okay, okay, enough with the negativity.
To balance the mood, here are my favorite
Good Wishes for all you CrowBarians :

May you always have food & shelter,
Aye, and a soft pillow for yer head;
And three days in heaven,
Afore the Devil knows yer dead.


There, all better now?
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« Result #18 on Dec 29, 2011, 11:39pm »

Thanks, Lore. I liked that.

A couple of pics I miss are the one of a wad of lights tacked to the house. And Finster's trailer!
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Quote:

"Good news is that I truly outdid myself this year with my Christmas decorations. The bad news is that I had to take him down after two days. I had more people come screaming up to my house than ever. Great stories. But two things made me take it down.

First, the cops advised me that it would cause traffic accidents as they almost wrecked when they drove by.

Second, a 55 year old lady grabbed the 75 pound ladder, almost killed herself putting it against my house and didn't realize that the man was fake until she climbed to the top (she was not happy). By the way, she was one of the many people who attempted to do that. My yard couldn't take it either. I have more than a few tire tracks where people literally drove up my yard."


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« Result #20 on Dec 15, 2011, 3:00pm »

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... to have 75% of your assets in something that has a chart like ...

That is a graph mostly from another century; why even look at it?

The only $ price graph for gold that matters is from 1995 onward into
this century. My ten-year projection for the $ equivalent gold price is
8500 +/-1000. That is the PTB target ratio between USD equivalents
and gold at that time, imo.

Assuming I am right, where would you put the other 25% of your assets
over the next ten years?

"The surest way to profit is to be right and sit tight." - Jesse Livermore

"Tell me when the printing will stop and I'll tell you when gold will peak."

UPDATE 1

The two graphs you should be considering, imo.

http://www.jsmineset.com/2011/12/19/jims-mailbox-832/print/

UPDATE 2

A thought exercise for you:
Assume your rich uncle dies and leaves you a treasure chest full of mostly
silver and some gold coins. This is your only store of wealth for your future.
Everyone tells you to diversify, diversify. Now, tell us what you would do.

UPDATE 3

Just remember that paper price volatility must go to extremes when the
world's monetary system is crashing, burning, and preparing for a whole
new/old paradigm called gold/silver backed money. You were expecting a
smooth transition for something that happens only once every 300 years?
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« Result #21 on Dec 14, 2011, 11:06am »

I think I heard Martenson say he has 75% of his assets held in gold and silver. Somehow, that seems extremely precarious given this chart from Kitco: http://www.kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/yearly_graphs.plx (gold chart 1975 - present)

No matter what you think is going to happen, or how fictionalized the inflation rate is, to have 75% of your assets in something that has a chart like this is - nuts.

Since my own asset allocation is looking a bit lopsided in this regard, I'd love to hear rebuttals...
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Chris Martenson's presentation at the Gold & Silver Meeting in Madrid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WBiTnBwSWc

What to expect over the next 20 years and durnig the next 2 years.
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« Result #23 on Nov 28, 2011, 3:25pm »

More from Sprott on Sunday:

King World News Interview (27-Nov, MP3)

The gist: if PMs go up, PM stocks go up...
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« Result #24 on Nov 22, 2011, 4:59am »

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Whadaya think? Is Chilton Andorian?

No, Orion (should be spelled Orian, imo)
- posibly a protégé of Thelev himself -
which could explain the confusion.

This reminds me of a bumper sticker
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Men are from Earth, Women
are from Earth. Deal with it.
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« Result #25 on Nov 22, 2011, 4:00am »

Say Denarius,

You might get a chuckle from this. Jim Willie echoed your sentiment earlier this month:

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My view is that Chilton is the false public champion put forth so that people can be led to believe that the corruption has a hard charging white knight. The Jackass [JW] maintains that the face of Bart Chilton is reminiscent of a Star Trek character.


Whadaya think? Is Chilton Andorian?

Andorian wiki

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« Result #26 on Nov 22, 2011, 12:10am »

Since this all comes down to loss of confidence in the system, the only rational response is the Four Gees: guns, grub, gold 'n God.

How'm I doing so far? :-/
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« Result #27 on Nov 19, 2011, 4:51pm »


Nov 17, 2011, 11:39am, Mike wrote:
So what does one do with their money after dumping? . . . . .
What are your options to a bank if you want liquidity? Gold and Silver. That's it!
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Mike, you answered your own question, imo.

Lore, comments? (you know you want to)
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« Result #28 on Nov 18, 2011, 9:44am »

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The New Retirement Normal:
The Average American Must Work For Two Extra Years After Death

Submitted by Tyler Durden [1] on 11/17/2011 17:31 -0500

http://www.zerohedge.com/print/440618

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« Result #29 on Nov 17, 2011, 11:39am »

I guess you're right, Lore, a lot of people don't have anything to dump.

'Normal' retirees will dump, maybe $1,000/month.

I find myself in another group: one that is disgusted with low returns and high risk. I am negative on the stock market, funds, CDs, & etc.

So what does one do with their money after dumping? Obviously, pay off the mortgage and then the rest of the debts.

Then what?

Eric Sprott answered, For liquidity there is precious metals. One could buy farmland. But that isn't liquid. Farmland is an investment.

Interesting Turk - Sprott clip. Turk is an inflationist, but gives Eric Sprott (a deflationist) the spotlight. Yet, they both are PM bugs. Sprott makes the point in this video that there is extreme risk in banks and no interest for taking that risk. What are your options to a bank if you want liquidity? Gold and Silver. That's it!

I would really enjoy Turk & Sprott debating the inflation-deflation question.
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« Result #30 on Nov 9, 2011, 1:00am »

It would be interesting to see the data source. Mutual redemptions are soaring already due to crummy returns and people struggling to pay their bills.

Mutual fund sales plummet into negative territory in tumultuous September (18-Oct)

Canadians not saving enough for retirement, pensions becoming thing of the past (13-Oct)

Couple of thoughts:

  • You assume that everybody in that wave of retirees will "dump." More (much more) than half of those people have little if anything to dump. Liquidation of just a few $B by local retirees is a minor factor in the grand liquidation and repudiation ahead.
  • There probably will be an exodus out of mainstream investments that have generated unsatisfactory returns. Consider: $10K in Sprott's PM fund ten years ago is worth $75K today. I would expect some kind of run out of mainstream paper - and real estate - into things that show real returns going forward. PMs presently constitute something like 1.7% of retirement investment across North America. Bump that even a little and you are looking at the manifestation of our fabled "Phase 3" in the Gold and Silver bull, concurrent with loss of faith in most institutions and segments of the economy.
I submit that most investments that will be held back are already pricing in such activity. Consider recent movement in the bond market. The market is smarter than any of us.

Addendum: James Turk and Eric Sprott recently provided what is probably the best overview in recent memory of things to come. It's well worth the half hour:

James Turk Interview With Eric Sprott On, You Guessed It, Gold (c/o ZH, 4-Nov)
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