CNN attempts to cover the Tea Party a la Jerry Springer as a right wing tax protest. The protesters are bi-partisan and refuse to cooperate. The CNN reporter returns it to her network, as it is 'not fit for family viewing.'
Enter Foundingfathers.com with their footage of.demonstrators take the CNN reporter to task for biased coverage.
The icing on the cake comes at the end where a suburban female business owner sets the reporter straight. This is not partisan. This is about both parties and all of government selling out our descendants future.
Edit: Shortened topic title from "Tea Party is Non-Partisan" to "Tea Party."- Lore
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Re: Tea Party TeaParty is non-partisan « Reply #1 on Apr 17, 2009, 9:12pm »
Fascinating. The link provided by Stiles is broken, but numerous others are available (EXAMPLE).
The interviewer seems to be coached in typical smothering techniques. A pity that organizers couldn't bring forward better spokesmen. "Because he is" is hardly a compelling and memorable sound bite. Most home viewers will only have perceived a disorganized, hostile rabble.
The woman at the end was much better, but the issues are too complicated for the reporter and the home audience to grasp during a 2 minute news segment - especially when the most important part was off the air.
You can see that it's going to take a lot more to crack the news barrier.
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Re: Tea Party TeaParty is non-partisan « Reply #2 on Apr 18, 2009, 10:16pm »
There does not seem to be any honest coverage of these gatherings in the mainstream media. I used to respect some of the Christian Science Monitor editorials, but even they spin propaganda, albeit more subtly. The headline alone serves as distraction:
True to form, they consult a suitable academic B.S. artist:
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Jeffrey Kimball, a professor emeritus of history at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, says the protesters seemed to represent the most extreme adherents of American conservatism, hardly representative of the average American.
"We may have just seen the whole movement" at these protests, says Mr. Kimball. "I don't see it as a groundswell, but a manifestation by those people who form the core of ... the extreme right reacting both to the condition of our time and President Obama – he's black and he's liberal." ... "I think these protests are part of a larger politicization of American society, in a good way," says Suri. "People are feeling more engaged in the process, they're voicing their opinions and feeling that it matters. This is democracy in action, and those on the right have learned something from the Obama movement in that sense."
It will be interesting to watch this unfold. There is a lot of anger. Turnout will probably be impressive. 'Tea Parties' are becoming a household term. But protests seem to be fairly easy to manipulate, especially in this environment of mixed, confused messages. Let's hope protestors police themselves and nobody gets hurt. It only takes one incident to really make a mess of things.
I haven't been able to get online much lately, so am catching up on interesting reading as time permits. Hope everyone here is doing okay.
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Re: TEA PARTY « Reply #5 on Sept 6, 2009, 2:05pm »
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Why join, when it only draws attention to oneself?
"First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me." - Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984), on the inactivity of German intellectuals following the Nazi rise to power and the purging of their chosen targets, group by group
The following report is "going viral" (such an overused expression) and seems relevant to Tea Parties. Source & accuracy = Unknown. I see one related piece in the Bozeman Daily Chronicle (LINK). There was no coverage in Canada.
By now you have probably heard that President Obama came to Montana last Friday. However, there are many things that the major news has not covered. I feel that since Bill and I live here and we were at the airport on Friday I should share some facts with you. Whatever you decide to do with the information is up to you. If you chose to share this email with others I do ask that you DELETE my email address before you forward this on.
On Wednesday, August 5th it was announced locally that the President would be coming here. There are many groups here that are against his healthcare and huge spending so those groups began talking and deciding on what they were going to do. The White House would not release ANY details other than the date.
On about Tuesday Bill found out that they would be holding the "Town Hall" at the airport. (This is only because Bill knows EVERYONE at the airport) Our airport is actually located outside of Belgrade (tiny town) in a very remote location. Nothing is around there. They chose to use a hangar that is the most remotely located hangar. You could not pick a more remote location, and you can not get to it easily. It is totally secluded from the public.
FYI: We have many areas in Belgrade and Bozeman which could have held a large amount of folks with sufficient parking. (gymnasiums/auditoriums). All of which have chairs and tables, and would not have to be SHIPPED IN!! $$$$$
During the week, cargo by the TONS was being shipped in constantly. Airport employees could not believe how it just kept coming. Though it was our President coming several expressed how excessive it was, especially during a recession. $$$$$
Late Tuesday/early Wednesday the 12th, they said that tickets would be handed out on Thursday 9am at two locations and the president would be arriving around 12:30 Friday.
Thursday morning about 600 tickets were passed out. However, 1500 were printed at a Local printing shop per White House request. Hmmmm......900 tickets just DISAPPEARED.
This same morning someone called into the radio from the local UPS branch and said that THOUSANDS of Dollars of Lobster were shipped in for Obama. Montana has some of the best beef in the nation!!! And it would have been really wonderful to help out the local economy. Anyone heard of the Recession?? Just think...with all of the traveling the White House is doing. $$$$$ One can only imagine what else we are paying for.
On Friday Bill and I got out to the airport about 10:45am. The groups that wanted to protest Obama's spending and healthcare had gotten a permit to protest and that area was roped off. But that was not to be. A large bus carrying SEIU (Service Employees International Union) members drove up onto the area (illegal)and unloaded right there. It was quite a commotion and there were specifically 2 SEIU men trying to make trouble and start a fight. Police did get involved and arrested the one man but they said they did not have the manpower to remove the SEIU crowd. The SEIU crowd was very organized and young. About 99% were under the age of 30 and they were not locals! They had bullhorns and PROFESSIONALLY made signs. Some even wore preprinted T-shirts. Oh, and Planned Parenthood folks were with them.....professing abortion rights with their T-shirts and preprinted signs. (BTW, all these folks did have a permit to protest in ANOTHER area)
Those against healthcare/spending moved away from the SEIU crowd to avoid confrontation. They were orderly and respectful. Even though SEIU kept coming over and walking through, continuing to be very intimidating and aggressive at the direction of the one SEIU man.
So we had Montana folks from ALL OVER the state with their homemade signs and their DOGS with homemade signs. We had cowboys, nurses, doctors you name it. There was even a guy from Texas who had been driving through. He found out about the occasion, went to the store, made a sign, and came to protest.
If you are wondering about the press.....Well, all of the major networks were over by that remote hangar I mentioned. They were conveniently parked on the other side of the buildings FAR away. None of these crowds were even visible to them. I have my doubts that they knew anything about the crowds. We did have some local news media around us from this state and Idaho . Speaking of the local media...they were invited. However, all questions were to be turned into the White House in advance of the event. Wouldn't want anyone to have to think off the top of their head.
It was very obvious that it was meant to be totally controlled by the White House. Everything was orchestrated down to the last detail to make it appear that Montana is just crazy for Obama and government healthcare. Even those people that talked about their insurance woes........the White House called our local HRDC (Human Resource and Development Committee) and asked for names. Then the White House asked those folks to come. Smoke and mirrors...EVERYTHING was staged!!!!!!!!!!!
I am very dismayed about what I learned about our current White House. The amount of control and manipulation was unbelievable. I felt I was not living in the United States of America, more like the USSR!! I was physically nauseous. Bill and I have been around when Presidents or Heads of State visit. It has NEVER been like this. I am truly very frightened for our country. America needs your prayers and your voices. If you care about our country please get involved. Know the issues. And let Congress hear your voices again and again!! If they are willing to put forth so much effort to BULLY a small town one can only imagine what is going on in Washington DC. Scary!!
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Re: TEA PARTY « Reply #6 on Sept 7, 2009, 10:35am »
I haven't seen that viral email. So, is it true? Did Obama really go to Montana with his own lobsters?
I went to my town's Tea Party Town meeting. The topic was supposed to be Health Care. But, most of us have been television trained to receive, but not give. So as a result the meeting was dominated by one person who had come uber-prepared, but not expecting a forum for herself.
Margaret Murphy was born about 1952 in Germany and in 1973 became a US citizen. Her special interest is Adolph Hitler's rise to power. She sees all kinds of similarities between Obama & Adolph and spent a couple hours sharing them with us. In short, Adolph would've loved a computerized health care system tied into tax returns and bank accounts.
******* On www.econtalk.org Hitchens talked about whey Orwell matters.
George Orwell participated in the Spanish Civil war and survived a bullet in the throat. Orwell was a leftist. There were two factions of leftists. One was authoritarian and believed heaven on earth was realized via Stalin. Orwell's faction was non-authoritarian.
Orwell reviewed Hayek's The Road to Serfdom. What were his views of Hayek? Role played by Hayek in 1944-1945 is now forgotten. Churchill made a speech in 1945 election, having led the British people through hard times, saying that plan of the Labour Party to institute national health care and other socializing reforms, might be all very well in its way but might require a gestapo of bureaucracy. British were in no mood to be talked to in that tone of voice. People with deficiency diseases from the difficulties of life during the war, end of war hoped to bring an end to that neglect; talking about health requiring a gestapo didn't sell well. It is said that that speech was suggested to Churchill by Hayek himself; certainly influenced by Hayek. Churchill lost the election, though not only because of the gestapo speech. Orwell asked to review The Road to Serfdom around that time. Short review, shows he's read and understood the book; begins by saying it's the wrong book at the wrong time; prefers the risks run by state intervention to the risks of laissez faire or capitalism. However, adds almost as an afterthought that it would be stupid to ignore the point Professor Hayek is making if a certain share of the national income, past a certain point that will become a tyranny. Orwell manages to be the one who is slightly out of step.
Final Comment: Organizers of the Tea Party Town Meeting were disappointed that in a town of 15k only ~60 people turned out. Local leftists believe it was a secret right wing good-ole-boy meeting to plot against Obama.
The Town Meeting was not well publicized.
The newspaper treated Margaret Murphy as an alarmist who made much ado about similarities that should be discounted.
I would say that Margaret Murphy's contribution is different, but roughly equivalent to the contributions of Churchill, Hayek, and Orwell. Of course, none were heeded. But Great Company!
Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick" as they protested the president's health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.
The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the Washington Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.
People were chanting "enough, enough" and "We the People." Others yelled "You lie, you lie!" and "Pelosi has to go," referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. ... "Our government has lost sight of the powers they were granted." ... Today's protests imitated the original Boston Tea Party of 1773, when colonists threw three shiploads of taxed tea into Boston Harbour in protest against the British government under the slogan 'No taxation without representation'.
The group first began rising to prominence in April, when the governor of Texas threatened to secede from the union in protest against government spending. Waves of tea party protests have crossed America since.
Today's rally, the largest grouping of fiscal conservatives to march on Washington, comes on the heels of heated town halls held during the congressional August recess when some Democratic lawmakers were confronted, disrupted and shouted down by angry protestors who oppose President Obama's plan to overhaul the health care system.
Up to two million people marched to the U.S. Capitol today, carrying signs with slogans such as "Obamacare makes me sick" as they protested the president's health care plan and what they say is out-of-control spending.
The line of protesters spread across Pennsylvania Avenue for blocks, all the way to the capitol, according to the Washington Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency.
People were chanting "enough, enough" and "We the People." Others yelled "You lie, you lie!" and "Pelosi has to go," referring to California congresswoman Nancy Pelosi. ... "Our government has lost sight of the powers they were granted." ... Today's protests imitated the original Boston Tea Party of 1773, when colonists threw three shiploads of taxed tea into Boston Harbour in protest against the British government under the slogan 'No taxation without representation'.
The group first began rising to prominence in April, when the governor of Texas threatened to secede from the union in protest against government spending. Waves of tea party protests have crossed America since.
Today's rally, the largest grouping of fiscal conservatives to march on Washington, comes on the heels of heated town halls held during the congressional August recess when some Democratic lawmakers were confronted, disrupted and shouted down by angry protestors who oppose President Obama's plan to overhaul the health care system.
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Re: TEA PARTY « Reply #9 on Oct 5, 2009, 1:09am »
Mike:
Thanks for posting that Hitchens interview. The author could speak more slowly and clearly into the microphone sometimes, but never mind that: he's one of those people whose mind is like a box of historical chocolates. JP needs to interview more like him.
On the subject of public demonstrations and police action:
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Re: TEA PARTY « Reply #10 on Oct 6, 2009, 9:19am »
Thanks for the link on the police assault. I was completely unaware, even though it was from 9/24.
Now that I know, I have looked a little. What is the beef with G20? I haven't found an articulate short synopsis.
I have heard James Dines' take on the G20 demonstrators: 'When the pendulum of history had swung from government control to the ultimate anarchy, which would be the internet, we get anti-free trade demonstrations in Seattle. At that point he knew the pendulum was swinging back in the direction of control.' That's not a quote, but the idea is from an Eric King interview of James Dines that was either on FSN or www.kingworldnews.com
It seems this anti-g20, anti-"freetrade" paradigm is a repeat of the Spanish Civil War - Ultra Lite. Where there are two factions of leftist. One faction believes in government control for the benefit of all; the other is not sold on governmental authority (but still communist.)
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